Dear Kathie Lee and Hoda (mostly Kathie Lee)

Jacquelyn of Little Owl Crunchy Mama was bullied by Kathie Lee and Hoda on national TV for being a natural mama.

All I see is a beautiful woman and beautiful hair

On Wednesday January 15 Kathie Lee and Hoda of the Today Show publicly shamed a woman for not shampooing her hair for 5 years. If you hang around the natural circles, you are familiar with the no’poo method. Click here to watch (fastforward to 6:40).

Kathie Lee and Hoda may have made fun of Jacquelyn of Little Owl Crunchy Mama, a friend and guest poster here, but this is a bigger issue than picking on one undeserving woman. This issue is about putting down women for her alternative choices and simply putting down women in general. And we wonder why our kids bully other kids.

The following is a post written by Leslie Erin of Crunchy Betty, in response to Kathy Lee and Hoda regarding the “No Poo” post on LittleOwlCrunchyMomma’s “no poo” by Jacquelyn Byers. As a sign of support for for dear friend Jaquelyn I am posting Leslie’s letter with her permission.

Share it like crazy, my crunchy friends!


Dear Kathie Lee and Hoda (but mostly Kathie Lee),


Just … shh.

For a minute. Let me talk. Let someone else talk. Please.


Yesterday, with the exceptional display of journalistic prowess only the two of you can pull off, you publicly shamed a woman. You know, just a little good-natured name calling of a commoner, in between Kathie Lee’s cringe-worthy lyric-forgetting and the best hair evah (EVAH) popular girls circle jerk. No harm, no foul, right?

I get it, girlfriends. I really do get it. You live in a world where you’re plied with products and serums and perfumes and creams made of extracts of baby albino tiger tears mixed with space-aged polymers coated in 200 karat gold. You don’t really know what’s going on *out here* unless your producers shove a bottle of wine and a paper covered in words in front of your face and say, “Don’t think. Just talk.”

I know there’s an in-touch part of you somewhere, it just happens to focus on things like the latest stiletto-wedge-ballet-pump from Jimmy Choo or what Lady Gaga ate for breakfast yesterday morning (extracts of baby albino tiger tears, no doubt).

But out here, ladies, something else is going on. And it’s something your producers won’t hand you a script for (something that would never please the overlord advertisers).

So even though you’re not in touch with it, it does exist. And the beautiful women you made fun of yesterday is a part of it. You can call it “crunchy” (cue Kathie Lee eye roll) or natural or alternative or big bang boopsie. I don’t care. Call it whatever you want, but to look down on it any longer doesn’t fly.

You see, there are thousands of women who have learned one very important thing in the last few years:

We’ve been lied to. We’ve been bamboozled. We’ve been hoodwinked. We’ve been hypnotized by a billion synthetic fragrances slowly stripping us, from the day we’re born, of every shred of the true *natural* humanity we’re a part of.

And because hundreds of women as brave as Jaquelyn Byers of LittleOwlCrunchyMama have spoken out about their no ‘poo lifestyle, we know something you don’t:

Not washing your hair with shampoo doesn’t make you stink. Oh, maybe the first few days are rough, and then any whiff of off-putting smell is gone. It’s gone, and you know why? Because human bodies are designed to work in concert with nature, not battle with it.

We’ve also learned that the stink you cop to having after not washing your hair, Kathie Lee, has more to do with the things that you put IN your body than the things that you put ON your body. A clean diet, more often than not, equals a cleaner smell. And that cleaner smell is quite easy to remove (and be free of), even if you only wash with water.

You can still bathe regularly, Kathie Lee, so you don’t have to worry about smelling like the people “back in the day before shampoo” who only bathed once every few weeks, at most. You can still enjoy other comforts of modern day life. Like, you know, razors and toothbrushes and those little family stick figures you put on your car’s back window. Except not the last part. Please, not those.

I don’t know why I expect more of you, but I do. I expect women in the media to be conscientious about the way they talk about new ideas and, even more so, the way they talk about people. About other women. And, for heaven’s sake, about other women and their relationship with their children.

The disrespect you showed Jacquelyn, simply because she does something you’re not brave enough to learn about, much less try, was nothing short of schoolyard bullying.

I have a friend, you know, who has two girls: ages 5 and 7. And when she caught her children making fun of another kid for having curly hair, do you know what she did? She curled their hair. For a week straight, the girls had curly hair, just so they understood what another person was feeling.

So I know that one of you – I’m guessing Hoda, because she seems to be the bravest of the gang – is going to swallow your pill and do the right thing now. If a 5-year-old and 7-year-old can do it, you can muster up the emotionally responsible fortitude to do it, too.

Don’t wash your hair.

For six weeks.

Do not wash your hair with shampoo. Heck, you could even go the no ‘poo with baking soda and apple cider vinegar route. But either way, no shampoo. For six weeks.

And then come back and talk to us about how awful it is. Then you can talk from an experienced point of view. Then, perhaps, you won’t sit up there on your ultra loud thrones and set the tone for other people to feel like it’s okay to be mean. And many of your viewers were mean. Nasty. Bleh.

Until then, it would be ever so kind if one of you would have a sit down with your producers and schedule a few interviews with women who don’t use shampoo. Get them in your studio. Right next to you. In your face.

So you can smell them. And eat crow.

(I hear it’s delicious this time of year.)

And goodness knows I’m not saying it will work for you. It may not! I mean, let’s be honest, it won’t, because it takes exquisitely detailed spritzing and teasing and coiffing to get you camera ready all the time. But what’s six weeks going to hurt, right? Time flies when you’re a celebrity.

Try it. It’s not like you’ll lose your job – unlike the way you do when you anger the masses by being heartless and snarky.

The worst that can happen is that you’ll stink. The best that can happen is that you’ll gain our respect – and a naturally beautiful head of hair in the process.


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About Stephanie

Stephanie is a stay-at-home mom to her curly-haired two year old son, a nursing student, dog lover, and yoga enthusiast. She loves to share her tips on making green and healthy living attainable to families getting
started in the wonderful world of eco-consciousness. She believes in
real food and living as natural as possible…and why not, leaving behind a
better planet for our children.


  1. Wow. You are pretty angry. I didn’t view the “bullying” you write about in this piece. I certainly agree that women can be mean and snarky to each other. Often over things they don’t understand or can’t relate to.
    You lost me with your passive aggressiveness. I admit that I did not see the comments that sparked this piece, but what I read was a woman berating another woman for belittling someone while belittling said woman. You lose a bit of credibility there.
    If you want to win someone over to your point of view, try talking about the merits of your view, not how”fill in the blank” someone else is for not understanding your point of view.
    It seems there are two separate issues: Kathy Lee being rude, Kathy Lee not understanding “being natural”.
    Your passive aggressive jabs at Kathy Lee are no better than her rudeness to your friend.
    I think Kathy Lee is sadly misinformed or simply uninformed about natural living, but belittling her is no better than what she did.

    • Beke, I appreciate your point of view, however, if you read the intro to this post you can see that I didn’t write this letter myself. This is a guest post by a fellow blogger.

      • Stephanie, after sending my comment in I did realize that you were just reposting the letter written by someone else. I then tried to link back to the original post to share my comment with the author. I have not been able to find the original blog post of this letter. I have found reposting much like yours in two other blogs, but was not able to link back to the original posting from any of the blogs.
        I am sorry for the miscommunication on my part.

        • Beke, no worries. If you come across a blogpost that says is a guest post by someone else, it means that is the original post even if it was written by someone else. That is why you won’t find it on the author’s own website.

  2. If you’re encouraging people to “share it like crazy” any logical person might think you’re supporting the rude and passive aggressive behavior. I agree that no woman should be bullied or shamed, but if you really want to see a change educate people. Don’t fuel it by mimicking the exact behavior you’re complaining about. No need for the nastiness. There’s plenty of that already.

    • A, I would encourage you to submit a personal letter to the Today show if you don’t agree with this letter. you are entitled to you opinion and appreciate you expressing it. I admit Leslie’s letter can be interpreted the way you have, but the truth is she is simply calling them out.

      • Stephanie,
        Respectfully Leslie wasn’t just “simply calling them out”. She was employing the same behavior she was calling them out for. Her point would have been made much more effectively without the backhanded jabs at Kathy Lee and Hoda. As a matter of fact I believe her point is lost completely with every snarky comment that was made about them. It is unfortunate because the natural movement truly is beneficial to everyone.
        It saddens me to see a message lost because of the messenger.

  3. I’m sure that Kathie Lee and Hoda were going for shock factor and ratings. I didn’t see the TV spot, but I did look at the original blog post and I think her hair looks amazing. Who could have guessed she hasn’t washed it “traditionally” in over a year. I think that if Kathie Lee and Hoda were interviewed they would state that they want to empower women to be who they want to be… but in this case they don’t want you do be different than they are. I tried to no-poo method a little while. I gave up after a few weeks and probably should try it again. Right now I’m just washing it less often. Even my hair dresser told me that I shouldn’t wash my hair more than once a week… I would say she knows a little bit more about hair than Katie Lee does. Again, I didn’t see what Kathie Lee said or expressed, but I would love to support this blogger who decided to be different and make a decision based on health concerns.

  4. Well-written letter. I did view the Kathie Lee and Hoda video, and I completely agree that they were being rude and downright nasty to LittleOwlCrunchyMama. They live in another world, but that does not give them the right to act like “mean girls” from high school. Honestly.

  5. vera mallard says:

    Obviously these ladies are not well informed about what they are putting in and on their bodies. I have chemical senativity and have not used commerical products for years for body or home. I make all my products and believe me, I do not stink, unless you consider lavendar, peppermint, lemon, orange ect stinky. A little research would have been in order.


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